tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4213316015209503694.post1307970605155249765..comments2024-01-22T01:52:37.473-06:00Comments on RENEGADE TRADS: Sad News...A Sinnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05083094677310915678noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4213316015209503694.post-19890593855035174362011-03-06T19:58:07.396-06:002011-03-06T19:58:07.396-06:00A friend responded to this news with, "Well, ...A friend responded to this news with, "Well, that's just pisserating!"<br /><br />I think that sums it up.Joshua G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08037269361015893337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4213316015209503694.post-68544244005743799492011-03-05T20:41:17.071-06:002011-03-05T20:41:17.071-06:00"the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Fai..."the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith reaffirmed the validity of the norm of a binding obligation of celibacy for priests of Eastern Catholic Churches who exercise the ministry outside the canonical territory. The pope, however, has given the Congregation for the Eastern Churches the authority to give a dispensation from this norm, with the approval of the Episcopal Conference in question."<br /><br />The CEI has this authority because it is up to the national bishops conferences to approve allowing Eastern Catholics to have married priests outside the canonical territories of their sui juris churches.A Sinnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05083094677310915678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4213316015209503694.post-53338713411108718152011-03-05T18:59:36.401-06:002011-03-05T18:59:36.401-06:00Isn't the CEI composed of Roman bishops? If so...Isn't the CEI composed of Roman bishops? If so, then how can they have a say over the pastoral practices of an eastern church?Stohnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4213316015209503694.post-73614224276810328372011-03-04T20:38:20.814-06:002011-03-04T20:38:20.814-06:00Testify brother Stephen, testify !
BTW, you would...Testify brother Stephen, testify !<br /><br />BTW, you wouldn't happen to have Eastern Christian contacts in NYC would you ? If so, check out this page: http://www.facebook.com/pages/We-want-a-Western-Syriac-Catholic-Church-in-NYC/158185587567901<br /><br />My apologies to 'A Sinner' for utilizing this space to advertise. I shall be posting the above link to my blog shortly.Who Am Ihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06411910912225565488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4213316015209503694.post-58970225117755159652011-03-04T19:15:15.360-06:002011-03-04T19:15:15.360-06:00One would hope that the bishops in Italy would hav...One would hope that the bishops in Italy would have learned from the mistakes American bishops made on exactly the same issue. When Eastern-rite Catholics started immigrating to America in the late 1800's they asked their bishops back home to send some priests over, and naturally those priests were married parish priests. The Latin-rite bishops insisted on only celibate priests and pressured the Eastern-rite Catholics to Latinize their liturgy. The result was that many Eastern-rite Catholics became Orthodox.Stephenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10825489013036249581noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4213316015209503694.post-148558442372329422011-03-04T17:57:42.819-06:002011-03-04T17:57:42.819-06:00I made this a while back just to spite (in good fu...I made this a while back just to spite (in good fun that is) Trads that like to shove Occidental Christendom as being SUPERIOR to Eastern and Byzantine Christendom with those "It's better in Latin" posters. Enjoy !<br /><br />http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/41236_489203773274_690498274_6988718_4042944_n.jpg<br /><br />On that note, the "Don't forget your Mantilla" ones are so kitschy too. Ugh ! Maybe it appeals to individuals from that generation ?<br /><br />Anyway, here's the motivational poster I made:<br /><br />http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/41236_489203773274_690498274_6988718_4042944_n.jpgWho Am Ihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06411910912225565488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4213316015209503694.post-45839132835375971112011-03-04T17:41:12.358-06:002011-03-04T17:41:12.358-06:00Latinizations FTFAIL!
Honestly though, if there i...Latinizations FTFAIL!<br /><br />Honestly though, if there indeed exists a substantial Italian community of Romanians in The Diaspora, what precisely are they trying to tell Eastern Christians ? You're in Italy now, conform to Roman standards ? What in the world happened to relevant Liturgies and Liturgical diversity ? Likewise, anyone can hop on the web these days and look up Eastern and Byzantine Christian practices and not be mortified to see MARRIED clergymen. I don't see how it would confuse anyone. The priests in question would merely be serving ROMANIAN faithful. Aren't they likewise insulting The Eastern and Byzantine Christians by treating their TRADITION as second class ?Who Am Ihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06411910912225565488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4213316015209503694.post-26663136663004219922011-03-04T12:20:54.673-06:002011-03-04T12:20:54.673-06:00Hmm, well that's not really what this blog is ...Hmm, well that's not really what this blog is about. But I think that statement is incredibly revealing.<br /><br />One, it implies that celibacy as a tradition wouldn't exist without making it "mandatory" for secular priests (ie, drawing diocesan priests from only the pool of men with the celibate vocation). I think that's silly, there'd still be plenty of men called to celibacy, just without the weird dynamics of institutionalizing it, having a whole clerical-social world based on it.<br /><br />Two, it is rather clericalist. A diocesan priest is NOT a monk, is not "holier" for being a priest. The consecrated life and the priesthood are two different vocations, and it leads to a certain type of clericalism to bootstrap the latter to the former, to identify the two.<br /><br />Three, it implies that somehow marriage makes one more "of the world" (these are SECULAR priests, after all) than priests (many of whom are very worldly, trust me). But this is rather an insult to many Eastern Catholic priests.<br /><br />I simply don't believe in keeping the secular priesthood as that sort of "separate" caste, especially not in today's world where Christendom is no longer in place. Pretending it is doesn't help anything.A Sinnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05083094677310915678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4213316015209503694.post-18435226245403196232011-03-04T11:56:34.444-06:002011-03-04T11:56:34.444-06:00While I think the decision is rash, celibacy is a ...While I think the decision is rash, celibacy is a venerable discipline in the Latin rite that should be retained. A priest is a man of God - not of this world.Aduliohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00534730218402742905noreply@blogger.com