tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4213316015209503694.post680981266570949043..comments2024-01-22T01:52:37.473-06:00Comments on RENEGADE TRADS: Oh The Irony...A Sinnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05083094677310915678noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4213316015209503694.post-79333903465317729532010-12-05T19:35:46.064-06:002010-12-05T19:35:46.064-06:00Perhaps. The irony is just that the media reacted ...Perhaps. The irony is just that the media reacted exactly the way she said it would, and the statement that caused them to react that way...was a statement predicting they'd react that way!!<br /><br />The self-fulfilling prophecy aspect is incredible and (I think) makes BOTH her shooting-off at the mouth AND the ADL's whiny stridency...look incredibly foolish.<br /><br />All she said was that you can't criticize Israel in this country because Zionists control the media. And what happens when she says that? Zionists in the media bury her. Just like the very statement she got buried for said they would.<br /><br />It's basically the irony of being censored for claiming there is censorship.A Sinnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05083094677310915678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4213316015209503694.post-37257488270039779422010-12-05T18:19:00.805-06:002010-12-05T18:19:00.805-06:00Abe Foxman and the ADL are right about Ms. Thomas....Abe Foxman and the ADL are right about Ms. Thomas. She didn't criticize Israel's domestic or foreign policy. She spewed slurs. There's a difference between a comparison of Israel's state policy with the actions of other nations and the malicious use of grotesque stereotypes that fueled the murder of six million people. I don't care that Thomas is in her 90's and perhaps senile. She broke it; she owns it. <br /><br />When I read her words I picture the Nazi propaganda posters of the 1930's. The Nazis used every single slur from financial greed to pedophilia to objectify the Jews and pave the road to the Final Solution. Helen Thomas's comments are reprehensible in the light of history.sortacatholicnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4213316015209503694.post-50172170813968635222010-12-05T11:13:43.205-06:002010-12-05T11:13:43.205-06:00The thing is, though, "Zionists" is NOT ...The thing is, though, "Zionists" is NOT equivalent to "Jews". There are plenty of anti-zionist Jews, and a supermajority of the Zionists in America are actually Christians or even secular folk who support Israel uncritically as a political stance.<br /><br />And they do sort of "control government" inasmuch as Zionism is a principle that is almost universal common ground in politics. There is simply no doubt that almost all congressman and senators are pro-Israel, believe in the US and Israel having a "special relationship," would side with Israel over Palestine if it came down to that. Republican or Democrat, they are mostly all Zionists and believe in an exceptionalism for the State of Israel that we don't give to any other country.<br /><br />Likewise, that is the "mainstream" position in the media (if the shunning of Helen Thomas is any indication) and in society in general. Just as no one in America dare speak against "capitalism" or "democracy" or "supporting the troops" in America, likewise politicians have a very hard time being critical of the State of Israel beyond a certain point.<br /><br />You can't really critique Israel without people (like the ADL) jumping down your throat (look what happened to Jimmy Carter when he wrote his book recently) and so the reaction to Helen Thomas's statements was ironic.A Sinnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05083094677310915678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4213316015209503694.post-43978392397597381632010-12-05T09:21:40.548-06:002010-12-05T09:21:40.548-06:00Well. I would be interested to know what the react...Well. I would be interested to know what the reaction should have been?<br /><br />She did frame her remarks in the old classic way "Hollywood, government , banks" are controlled by .....<br /><br />And just substituted Zionists for Jews<br /><br />What so hard not to understand??? I'm sure that audience in Dearborn got the message (and I always loved Helen Thomas)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4213316015209503694.post-35707584670522021422010-12-04T21:55:22.394-06:002010-12-04T21:55:22.394-06:00Indeed it is. You'd think these people would s...Indeed it is. You'd think these people would see it too, but I would bet they are banking on the fact that when the term "anti-semitism" gets thrown around, the capacity for rational and level-headed discussion seems to fly out the window.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03286578491636129500noreply@blogger.com