tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4213316015209503694.post8114879870750960730..comments2024-01-22T01:52:37.473-06:00Comments on RENEGADE TRADS: More of My Liturgical OCDA Sinnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05083094677310915678noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4213316015209503694.post-49706710049651927242010-10-31T16:42:51.982-05:002010-10-31T16:42:51.982-05:00Low Masses have got to go.
They're "ok&...Low Masses have got to go. <br /><br />They're "ok" for normal weekdays, but on a Sunday, come on people, get with it.<br /><br />I've seen my share of mishaps at TLMs so let's not pretend everything is pristine there either.<br /><br />You're not supposed to strut with the incense, you're meant to process with it. You're carrying with you all the prayers of THE SAINTS for crying out loud.Who Am Ihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06411910912225565488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4213316015209503694.post-76029668208828673402010-10-19T01:06:50.646-05:002010-10-19T01:06:50.646-05:00I would much prefer this sort of arrangement to th...I would much prefer this sort of arrangement to the current NO style of doing just any old thing you feel like. Most NOs, even those which are supposedly solemn, have the feel of something like a Low Mass w/ crappy music. Its like the worst of the '50's times ten...<br /><br />This is also what is nice about the stratification of the TLM, if you don't have enough clerics, servers, choir members, etc. for a Solemn High, you don't try to do some butchered sorta-Solemn High you just bump it down to the next level of solemnity you can pull off. If it ends up being a Low Mass then so be it.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03286578491636129500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4213316015209503694.post-48345899402625249472010-10-17T14:52:28.290-05:002010-10-17T14:52:28.290-05:00wow, I wish I could edit out my numerous grammatic...wow, I wish I could edit out my numerous grammatical errors.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4213316015209503694.post-4429430108014959632010-10-17T14:50:07.719-05:002010-10-17T14:50:07.719-05:00I was at the cathedral today, and surprise, they d...I was at the cathedral today, and surprise, they did this exact kind of thing. They have the luxury of being attached to an all boys school and so the senior boys choir does a very good job singing at every noon Sunday Mass. <br /><br />But it's an incoherent mess. The Kyrie is simply spoken as "Lord have mercy" while the Gloria is sung De Angelis. The Sanctus is in English so every can, presumably, sing along, whereas the Agnus Dei is chanted by the choir.<br /><br />The prayers were all simply spoken, save the Per Ipsum.<br /><br />The presiding priest had a thick Indian accent, so it was difficult to understand him anyways. Were he speaking in Latin, at least it could have been an sacred incomprehensibility. <br /><br />When they dress up the Mass in the garb of tradition, something still feels wrong. How we can go from the cardboard "Lord have mercy,,," to the Gloria of the Angels to the skeletal well-wishing collects is perplexing. And worse, when the choir does have the chance to sing superbly, the entire Mass has at this point, basically stopped. The priest is standing around during the Ordinary, staring at his feet because his role has been so reduced and his prayers are said in a manner of seconds. <br /><br />But hey, its all so we can participate, no? But we can't. No one knows the Gloria or Agnus Dei in Latin, so we basically just put praying the Mass on pause and listen to the lovely three minute interlude. <br /><br />It's hopelessly confused.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4213316015209503694.post-56601768872850050422010-10-16T08:51:32.675-05:002010-10-16T08:51:32.675-05:00Your plan is ambitious but not altogether tenable....Your plan is ambitious but not altogether tenable. The best you'd get at most places is 4 for Low Mass and (3a) for High Mass. "Liturgically advanced" parishes and certain cathedrals might get up to 3 (Low) and 3b (High) for feasts and solemnities.<br /><br />It's important to remember that the majority of the clergy today (even monsignori and bishops) cannot even pronounce Latin properly. Sure, many priests in the "old days" were functionally illiterate in Latin. Still, many of them could pronounce the words. If the Canon in Latin is made mandatory again (good idea), many priests will have to be taught how to recite the Canon syllabically. This training worked for ABBA, but will it play with the priesthood?<br /><br />The Church desperately needs an moral overhaul. While I agree that some liturgical changes would be nice, the current focus must be on saving the priestly institution itself.sortacatholicnoreply@blogger.com